因为很可能无解,十三个原因

剧情和节奏无话可说,编剧吊炸天!整个故事也是美国这几年非常热门的校园霸凌问题,然后落脚于最后的主旨:some
of them care, but none of them care enough
以及借用了无数人的嘴说出的那句if any of us stay friend, she should be
alive today.

刚开始看前几集的时候,会主观的同情Hannah,理由很简单——她受到了霸凌,她自杀了,死亡的是她。但是随着tape的不断播放,故事的推进,引起这个tragedy的reasons也一一展现在观众眼前。对于这些reasons,我相信每个人的看法都不一样。而我的长评,也仅仅代表我的看法。
    1.SHE is a drama
queen.我曾经觉得Hannah是那种外向型的girl,她会给Clay起外号,与
Justin刚刚接触的时候还会机智的调侃对方,Jessica第一次“被”辅导员介绍认识时候对话的诙谐,与同学间的谈话总也显得机智幽默,对,也许那是她希望的,本来应该有的性格。但后来会觉得她内心非常敏感而脆弱,远远没有表面看起来的大大咧咧,所以在被Tyler偷拍、Bryce捏屁股,甚至看到ex好友被强奸的时候,Jeff不幸死亡的时候,无论这些不幸发生在别人身上还是最终更糟糕的事情发生在自己身上的时候,她都没有做明确的反抗,没有说NO或者告诉受害人真相。以前也看过很多关于校园霸凌事件的片子,多数是日剧,主角性格会是由内而外的懦弱,大约和民族文化也有关系。Hannah外表看起来太阳光,但是他身边的同学也或多或少感受到了她内心想法太多。这也许是抑郁症或者心理有疾病的人的一种表现。
她对Clay和Zach说get the fuck out of
here,同时希望他们留下,这样的矛盾情绪大多数人都会有,但是一样的,当你听到别人对你说fuck
off的时候,你有什么理由留下?作为被驱赶的一方,怎样才知道对方是外强中干的矛盾心理,还是彻底的厌恶才叫你滚?或者说,同样是被喊了fuck
off,如果Zach和Clay分别强行留下,Hannah又是否会接受他们的好意?我觉得并不一定,因为一个是预设的备胎,一个是平时陌路的人。how
can you blame
him?如果Zach是一个理由,那Hannah自身难道不是吗?她也应该出现在tape里面吧?可是我这是上帝视角的逻辑,一个要自杀的人,怎么会这么想?所以,这也是片子看的郁闷的一大理由,因为我知道要自杀的人会怎么想,以及事情明明可以有更光明的想法的……
     2.Clay所追求的正义,真的是正义吗?他在听tape的时候,不断的以他认为正确的方式去伸张他的justice,really
for Hannah?or for
himself?而我不得不问自己,他这些举动,真的是“正确的”吗?也许真相需要公开,但是他并没有了解到自己看到的“真相”并不一定是故事的全部,这点,似乎在片子里面也不断在提醒大家,我们每个人看到的,其实都很主观。eg,Hannah以为那天party时候觉得Clay很轻松,可是Clay自己却知道他紧张到爆炸。同样,Hannah在blame
herself的时候,想要告诉Clay关于Jeff死亡的一些隐情的时候,Clay也主观的认为她和Jeff并不熟,那副要哭出来的表情不过是装的。每个人都是主观的,每个人都有误会别人的时候,每个人也都有情绪悲伤的时候,但,并不是每个人都会自杀。Hannah因为悲观,觉得全世界都不理她,她是孤独的。而Clay又是否看到Sheri的内心呢?她的内疚,她不想这件事毁了她的人生,(毕竟已经有人自杀了),她仍然想阳光积极的活下去,并试图做的更好,譬如多那个老爷爷一家。而Clay那种坚持justice的方式又何尝不会毁了Sheri?还有他没有砸Tyler家的玻璃表示不满,而是发了Tyler的裸照,以暴制暴的方式,真的是justice吗?Hannah会因为霸凌而自杀,难道Clay这样对Tyler这样做的时候,不觉得T也可能会想不开自杀吗?所以他所谓的justice,是否真的那么重要?如Tony所说的,大家听了tape后,其实都背负了一些东西,都在改变一些,而Clay是否太执着于表面的真相却忽略了大家内心的变化与感受呢?这也是我唏嘘Alex和Tyler结局的一个点。因为他们两个结局,是可见的悲剧,这悲剧可以说是因果报应,也可以说是Hannah造成的,甚至Clay我觉得
也脱不了关系!
   3.对于校园霸凌,一味的指责旁人没有pay
attention,不如鼓励受害者说出自己的感受和遭遇。毕竟那种我叫你fuck
off,但也希望你留下的矛盾心理,不是大多数人能正确get的。而且,一个有抑郁症,或者想自杀的人,她大多是时候看起来都无比“正常”(别问我为什么知道),不是pay
attention就能解决的,事实上我觉得需要交往阳光的伙伴,或者正真的说出来寻求帮助。
    4.关于霸凌,我想说似乎我从小到大身边都没有遇到如日剧、此剧这样严重的霸凌现象,一方面因为我从小念的都是当地最好的学校,而我一直是那个popular
child,有着自己的小团体。另一方面也许是我们中国的文化观念,比如学生会更听老师的话,觉得老师是权威,所以其实大家都更“听话”。以及我们本身学制、体制的关系。但,我觉得不可否认,在我们国家特别是沿海一带,经济上来以后,能看到身边的“熊”孩子们早熟,远远超过我们那个时代年龄的早熟和关于世界的认识。而现在我们浙江的高中,也开始了走班制,不再有固定的教室和同桌的关系,也意味着社交能力需要更多的重视。所以,我想,大概我有孩子的时候,我的孩子的校园情况会更类似欧美、日本这样的状况。理由很简单,因为学生更有个性了。
    5.放到了最后才说Courtney and
Marcus,因为除了打从心底的鄙夷之外,我实在想不出别的要表达的情绪。Come
on
,Courtney.你父亲是一对gay,按理应该很好理解同性文化,按理应该更容易接受同性文化,而且拜托,现在都什么年代了,你还处于认可同性恋婚姻的文化中,出柜有那么难吗?okay,出柜是个人选择问题,你可以不选择,但是为什么要为了撇开自己而去中伤Hannah?WHY?!!
What kind of person is
that?Marcus也是,表面是学生会主席,而实际使用的手段确实那么卑劣,Justin会说要弄死Clay的真小人,可是Marcus确实那种笑面虎背后捅死人的伪君子。如果说片子里的每个人都是自私的,那么其他人(除了Jeff,我真的好喜欢他)的自私我相对都能理解和接受,因为每个人的情绪和判断都是主观的,性格也不一样,何况大家都是高中生。但C和M两位,我觉得是自私到极致,我不能接受。
    6.我不推荐心理抑郁的人看,因为遇到这个情况很可能无解——如果你真的理解有自杀倾向的人的心理的话。虽然我真的不那么喜欢Hannah,并认为她是drama
queen,但是有自杀心理的人确实可能就是片子里反应出来的那样的。还有给周围人带来的伤害。所以,很可能这种悲剧是无解的,看的人非常压抑。

Sometimes you even don’t know how things come to pass but they just
happen suddenly without a hint. Actually, I think in some aspect we are
all convicts who have been trapped by the lack of some critical
experience and mental cognition, which would have a huge impact on us in
the future. But from other perspective, it is the essential process we
would go though in our life, which would ultimately come though in
different period of time for different people. I believe most of people
would want to find their own true friend crew who would be willing to
hear you our when you really need them. You may would not think about
the thing like tarring some house roofs, which seems to be really boring
and not helpful for you, but we could not predict how it could pave the
way for us. When we try to break the ties around the us, we tend to ask
others for help, and this is where we need to pay attention that we
probably would like to give a person some gifts as the courtesy we
think. However, your small gifts could seem to be so colossal that it’s
not easy for others it receive. People could be magnanimous to their
rivals but easily forget to be nice to themselves. Hunkering in the
shade, I’m really confused, nervous and desperate, but please never give
up but hang in there, because you would load what might be killing you
now but later in the future would heal you and get you better.

也许是故事背景就是一群以为自己长大但又还没有长大的高中生,整个故事看下来反倒让我觉得很幼稚,看到最后最喜欢的反而是一开始不怎么喜欢的sheri:她做错了事情,她当下不敢承认不能承受,但她至少在尝试弥补,她在尝试让事情变好,所以她去帮助出车祸的老爷爷,她承诺有一天她会告诉Jeff的家人真相。我觉得这才是一个正确的teenage
attitude: we all make mistakes, and we all consistently try not to let
it ruin our life.

最后,搬豆瓣评论区P-Wreth找来的一篇来自IMDB的评论,作者自称suicidal
once。
I absolutely wanted to feel for Hannah so badly. I wanted to have
sympathy for her and be on her side.Unfortunately, I never once managed
to feel anything more than irritation and annoyance towards her. She is
selfish, entitled and demanding. She seems to have this mentality that
everyone around her should have the ability to read her mind and it
frustrates me to no end. After harshly telling several people who WANT
to be close to her to leave her alone, she magically expects people to
simply ignore her request and continue pursuing her. I couldn’t relate
to her problems at all. I completely understand the underlying point
regarding that part of the “hot or not” list, but I don’t care. It was
more a compliment and the people on the “not hot” side probably felt
worse about themselves than she could imagine.
She treats Clay like absolute garbage. Clay seemed to be the one guy who
would always be friendly to her no matter what. Even when the first
picture went around, he didn’t seem very phased by it and had she
confined in him, he would have been there for her in every possible way.
She pushed him away more than anyone else in the show and it irritated
me more than I can say. Part of my biggest curiosity was wanting to know
why Clay was on the tapes. When his episode FINALLY (that’s another
smaller issue I have with this show; it’s extremely slow paced and I
feel like you’re always waiting for something to happen) comes around,
you learn she once again pushed him away and got hurt that he listened
to her when she told him to leave. DRAMA MUCH!? I was soooooooo
irritated when that happened! HE DID NOTHING WRONG!!! He even asked her
if she was okay when they were making out. And because of that she had
the audacity do add him to those tapes? Even at the end when she gives
it one last go with the counselor, she left the office in hopes he would
follow her? Was she testing him? Hoping he could read her mind? She was
even told afterward she was missed at the poetry reading; isn’t that a
reason alone to continue life?! Which leads me to her selfishness. How
dare she leave a bunch of tapes behind to pass around to all the people
who hurt her after SHE made the choice to take her own life. Granted,
some people on them deserved to know what they did more than others, but
still. It’s cruel and unnecessary. It’s almost like she wanted to
condemn them for the rest of their lives for high school mistakes. No
one is perfect as a teenager and she wasn’t either. I mean, she watches
her ex-best friend get raped and does literally nothing about it. Okay,
fine, she was scared to leave the closet – but what about afterwards?
She didn’t confront Bryce or Justin to tell them she saw everything. She
didn’t tell Jessica what she saw. She didn’t call the police – she did
squat. What kind of person is that? The entire time I was watching this
show and more reasons kept being revealed, I kept finding myself saying
“that’s it?” There are two other characters in this show who have it ten
times worse that she does; Justin and Tyler. In fact, I felt awful for
Justin and was probably the only character I teared up for at all.
Hannah had loving amazing parents that she left behind; Justin has a
horrible mom with an abusive step dad. Hannah had people who were
interested in her and wanted to be friends whereas Tyler gets slammed
against walls and told off by literally everyone on the show. Poor
Hannah.
Overall, with such an unlikable main character, it makes the show very
difficult to enjoy. I personally think this show is way overrated and
there are people in real life that deal with much worse and don’t kill
themselves. In fact, Skye says it best in the show; “Suicide is for the
weak.” Now, I don’t want anyone to think I am downgrading suicide as a
real issue in anyway shape or form. It’s a horrible reality many people
face and it’s extremely tragic. I just feel that this show almost
depicts it as a solution to a problem as there are two other characters
who also attempt to kill themselves (Clay and Alex). Which, I might add,
are caused by the grief passed on from Hannah’s tapes. Maybe she wanted
a chain reaction to happen, cause that’s what she got.

我不想blame victim,Clay在里面像一个英雄,但我想问,13 reasons why
Hannah killed
herself,为什么她自己不在里面?Hannah一直在拒绝所有人,同时希望别人死皮赖脸的追着她?她对Clay说get
the fuck out of here,同时希望他留下。她敷衍过mr
porter办公室的门,又希望他追出来。她被Bryce强奸的时候,甚至没能说一句no。why
should the whole thing happens the way you want it to happen? Without
you even telling anyone that you want it to happen that way?

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So by the end of the day, who killed Hanna? Parents who are not paying
attention, teachers who are not taking it seriously, friends who are not
caring enough, and a stupid little girl who are not even bold enough to
say a word.

当然我不是说这都是Hannah的错。我只是想说,对于校园霸凌,一味的指责旁人没有pay
attention(毕竟每个人都忙着只在乎自己的感受是一件自然而然的事情),不如鼓励受害者说出自己的感受和遭遇,也许这样能帮助更多?或许,这也是编剧和导演想表达的事情之一?

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